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spending cuts and the $2.20 trillion, plus we can get $700 billion whichi support going back to the clinton levels. do you agree? has assessment was we have to look at tax rates being raised on the wealthiest instead of just looking at deductions. >> i think we need to do both. if you are going down my path, we need both. there is no way to get to that number with tax reform alone. if you consider we will not take away a charitable deduction and if your goal is not to raise taxes from lower and middle-income houses. there is no way to do the arithmetic. there is a lot of good ways of doing reform butthere is no good way of doing it to raise that kind of revenue. we need to do both. we need tax reform and we need higher tax rates on upper-income households. >> it seems to me you could do the tax rates at the end of the year because then you could make the kind of deal that you want. to some of the closing of the loopholes. -- and then do some of the closing of the loopholes. i would hope states that have strong businesses to support this,you could bring the corporate tax rate down and work o
spending cuts and the $2.20 trillion, plus we can get $700 billion whichi support going back to the clinton levels. do you agree? has assessment was we have to look at tax rates being raised on the wealthiest instead of just looking at deductions. >> i think we need to do both. if you are going down my path, we need both. there is no way to get to that number with tax reform alone. if you consider we will not take away a charitable deduction and if your goal is not to raise taxes from...
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bush and clinton administrations. both of you went to the same university. i'm sure you can agree on everything today. dr. zandi first. >> thank you for the opportunity. it is an honor to be here with kevin, a good friend of mine. let me say that these are my own personal views. lawmakers have to resolve three issues -- first, the fiscal cliff. second, raising the treasury debt ceiling, which as you know is becoming an issue rarely soon. third, achieving long-term fiscal sustainability. that is deficit reduction and tax increases and spending cuts that allow the gdp ratio to stabilize by the end of the decade. these three things need to be done now. in terms of the fiscal cliff, if policy is unchanged and we go over the cliff and there is still no change after that, the gdp in 2013 will 3.5 percentage points. subtract that and that is a severe recession. cbo and others are probably us are underestimating how severe that will be because confidence is very weak. it is unclear how the reserve would response to this. we need to scale back from the cliff. at the
bush and clinton administrations. both of you went to the same university. i'm sure you can agree on everything today. dr. zandi first. >> thank you for the opportunity. it is an honor to be here with kevin, a good friend of mine. let me say that these are my own personal views. lawmakers have to resolve three issues -- first, the fiscal cliff. second, raising the treasury debt ceiling, which as you know is becoming an issue rarely soon. third, achieving long-term fiscal sustainability....
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i support going back to the clinton levels. do you agree? we should look at raising taxes on the wealthiest rather than just -- >> i think we need to do both. if you are going down my path, we need both. there is no way to get to that number with tax reform alone. if you consider we will not take away a charitable deduction and if your goal is not to raise taxes from lower and middle-income houses. there is no way to do the arithmetic. there is no good way of doing it to raise that kind of revenue. we need to do both. we need tax reform and we need higher tax rates on upper- income households. >> it seems to me you could do the tax rates at the end of the year because then you could make the kind of deal that you want. to some of the closing of the loopholes. you could bring the corporate tax rate down and work on the debt by closing the loopholes and subsidies. >> tax reform is complicated. nail down a framework and then go to work and try to figure this out. in terms of corporate tax reform, that is absolutely necessary. the goal would be
i support going back to the clinton levels. do you agree? we should look at raising taxes on the wealthiest rather than just -- >> i think we need to do both. if you are going down my path, we need both. there is no way to get to that number with tax reform alone. if you consider we will not take away a charitable deduction and if your goal is not to raise taxes from lower and middle-income houses. there is no way to do the arithmetic. there is no good way of doing it to raise that kind...
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among us to go back to the clinton rates for income above $250,000. >> the clinton tax rates, we need to go back. that's not a generic policy idea. that's really specific. the clinton tax rate for high income earners was 39.6%. that's what president obama was calling for during the campaign. that's still what president obama is calling for now. but now when you ask him if that's the red line, if it you ask if he will accept anything else, he doesn't really answer. >> tax rates. are you -- is there no deal at the end of the year if tax rates for the top 2% aren't the clinton tax rates, period. no ifs, ands or buts on that specific aspect of the fiscal cliff. >> with respect to the tax rates, i want to emphasize, i am open to new ideas. i'm not going to slam the door in their face. i want to hear -- i want to hear ideas from everybody. >> that's not a no. here is the treasury secretary timothy geithner. >> there's no agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. >> not necessarily going up to the clinton era rates. just going up. today at a press conference at the cap
among us to go back to the clinton rates for income above $250,000. >> the clinton tax rates, we need to go back. that's not a generic policy idea. that's really specific. the clinton tax rate for high income earners was 39.6%. that's what president obama was calling for during the campaign. that's still what president obama is calling for now. but now when you ask him if that's the red line, if it you ask if he will accept anything else, he doesn't really answer. >> tax rates. are...
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does the top rate have to end the 39.6% the way it was under bill clinton? could be democrats accept something between if it was coupled with a reduction in the ability on the top 2% to except a reduction of deductions? >> i do not want to second-guess what we might decide. i do not think that is what we should debate the right now. multimillionaires and what deductions they can take is something different. this is where we are. >> that is in addition to. >> yes, in addition to. the problem with having that debate now suggests that that is all we have to do is find that a hundred dollars billion, and we are done. -- find that $8 billion dollars and we are done. we get it from spending cuts shia we believe there needs to be revenue coming in. there have to be investments for economic competitiveness and economic growth. this is not just rhetoric. it is how we do tax policy. which is how we make investments and how we deal with those families in the video worried about debt and higher education and retirement. >> on the tax side, as part of the adults of a sol
does the top rate have to end the 39.6% the way it was under bill clinton? could be democrats accept something between if it was coupled with a reduction in the ability on the top 2% to except a reduction of deductions? >> i do not want to second-guess what we might decide. i do not think that is what we should debate the right now. multimillionaires and what deductions they can take is something different. this is where we are. >> that is in addition to. >> yes, in addition...
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to paraphrase bill clinton, we have to get to the point where we can address that, and in addition to the positives, i think we need to also go negative and the political campaigns exposed the hypocrisy. and the foreign fighter flows, are you seeing bigger numbers from the middle east and the arab world into, say, northern mali. >> northern mali is the tech challenge of the moment. the complete collapse of the malian government, so now there is no control in the northern two-thirds of the country, and i don't know how to describe it any way other than a safe haven for al qaeda in the lands of the islamic maghreb. islamic maghreb we believe is al qaeda's best financed affiliate, deriving their money from kidnap little for ransom, for involvement in the drug trade and other illicit trafficking, things so simple as fuel and tobacco and what have you. but they have a lot of money. now they have a lot of weapons. many of the -- again, for lack of a better term -- mercenaries mr. gadhafi fired to work in libya they decided they were not going to be paid or he was nose going to be around and
to paraphrase bill clinton, we have to get to the point where we can address that, and in addition to the positives, i think we need to also go negative and the political campaigns exposed the hypocrisy. and the foreign fighter flows, are you seeing bigger numbers from the middle east and the arab world into, say, northern mali. >> northern mali is the tech challenge of the moment. the complete collapse of the malian government, so now there is no control in the northern two-thirds of the...
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host: what do you think about hillary clinton's future, hillary clinton in 2016? >> i think hillary clinton is the next logical step in a progressive society in america that we need. my grandfather was a democrat in delaware, he served two terms and i think -- i think she's what we really need. and i think that's what we need for the country to move ahead. host: steven an independent in connecticut. good morning to you. caller: good morning, thanks for taking my call. i really like hillary clinton, i think she's a hard worker, i think her old man is a hard worker too and whitewater was like three wars ago. it's a long time ago. but i'd like to see jeb bush also run against hillary clinton. i think those are two no nonsense personalities that can move our nation forward. thanks. host: so hey, steven, if jeb bush, if it's a bush-clinton race, for whom would you vote? caller: oh, gosh. i would lean toward jeb at this point because he has been really pushing education and education is one of my things. so right now he's got me. host: that's stephen, independent. who d
host: what do you think about hillary clinton's future, hillary clinton in 2016? >> i think hillary clinton is the next logical step in a progressive society in america that we need. my grandfather was a democrat in delaware, he served two terms and i think -- i think she's what we really need. and i think that's what we need for the country to move ahead. host: steven an independent in connecticut. good morning to you. caller: good morning, thanks for taking my call. i really like...
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bush and clinton administrations. both of you went to the same university. i'm sure you can agree on everything today. dr. zandi first. >> thank you for the opportunity. it is an honor to be here with kevin, a good friend of mine. let me say that these are my own personal views. they don't represent the views of the moody's corporation. lawmakers have to resolve three issues -- first, the fiscal cliff. second, raising the treasury debt ceiling, which as you know is becoming an issue rarely soon. -- an issue fairly soon. third, achieving long-term fiscal sustainability. that is deficit reduction and tax increases and spending cuts that allow the gdp ratio to stabilize by the end of the decade. these three things need to be done now. in terms of the fiscal cliff, if policy is unchanged and we go over the cliff and there is still no change after that, the gdp in 2013 will 3.5 percentage points. subtract that and that is a severe recession. cbo and others are probably us are underestimating how severe that will be because confidence is very weak. it is unclear h
bush and clinton administrations. both of you went to the same university. i'm sure you can agree on everything today. dr. zandi first. >> thank you for the opportunity. it is an honor to be here with kevin, a good friend of mine. let me say that these are my own personal views. they don't represent the views of the moody's corporation. lawmakers have to resolve three issues -- first, the fiscal cliff. second, raising the treasury debt ceiling, which as you know is becoming an issue...
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that is what bill clinton second term was about. he could keep him from getting to that point of bringing everything to gavel. >> this came from his best friend who runs a parking company. he said obama has been ridiculed in his brain. he is constantly working the room excuse to get the right conversation to move them forward. he's always thinking a few steps ahead. if i did eight incident be they would to see -- if i do a and they do b, it would be c. he was in this particular kind of business. he wanted to be in a longer- term business. he did not make enough concessions to the day-by-day noise of washington. >> i call this his pregame aptitude. he plays the game before the players take the field. the trick is when you get to be president. it can create a kind of reticence, a step back quality that you missed. all those variables change. >> i think he is learning. i altered his landscape. as i do that, i am ahead of the pack. >> you're talking about striving for greatness. he is going to need to strive for greatness and reorganize
that is what bill clinton second term was about. he could keep him from getting to that point of bringing everything to gavel. >> this came from his best friend who runs a parking company. he said obama has been ridiculed in his brain. he is constantly working the room excuse to get the right conversation to move them forward. he's always thinking a few steps ahead. if i did eight incident be they would to see -- if i do a and they do b, it would be c. he was in this particular kind of...
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i support going back to the clinton levels. do you agree question mark >> i think we need to do both. if you are going down my path, we need both. there is no right to get to that number with tax reform alone. if you consider we will not take away a charitable deduction and if your goal is not to raise taxes from lower and middle- income houses. there is no way to do the arithmetic. there is no good way of doing it to raise that kind of revenue. we need to do both. we need tax reform and we need higher tax rates on upper-income households. >> it seems to me you could do the tax rates at the end of the year because then you could make the kind of deal that you want. to some of the closing of the loopholes. you could bring the corporate tax rate down and work on the debt by closing the loopholes and subsidies. tax reform as complicated. nail down a framework and then go to work and try to figure this out. in terms of corporate tax reform, that is absolutely necessary. the goal would be to make that revenue neutral. you want to br
i support going back to the clinton levels. do you agree question mark >> i think we need to do both. if you are going down my path, we need both. there is no right to get to that number with tax reform alone. if you consider we will not take away a charitable deduction and if your goal is not to raise taxes from lower and middle- income houses. there is no way to do the arithmetic. there is no good way of doing it to raise that kind of revenue. we need to do both. we need tax reform and...
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so, hillary clinton i am for. i think it is really hard for a lot of presidents because the number one thing is to keep our ego out of it. i strongly support hillary clinton. i am very strong for education. i know that her being a democrat, i know that she would support obamacare and continue to support it and would not damage it in anyway. being a person who is impaired, i really appreciate that. host: last month there was a tribute, a video tribute, to hillary clinton. [video clip] >> she has put that all together in the pinnacle up until now in her public service which has in deer herd to millions and millions of people all over the world then the. ♪ >> she has been a splendid representative of the united states. >> she is doing it [indiscernible] ♪ >> in the end, it is not about being a good politician. it is about being a human being. >> we have always pushed human potential and promise forward. if you vbet on the side of human rights, human dignity, more countries may have the same extraordinary good for
so, hillary clinton i am for. i think it is really hard for a lot of presidents because the number one thing is to keep our ego out of it. i strongly support hillary clinton. i am very strong for education. i know that her being a democrat, i know that she would support obamacare and continue to support it and would not damage it in anyway. being a person who is impaired, i really appreciate that. host: last month there was a tribute, a video tribute, to hillary clinton. [video clip] >>...
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secondly, if clinton reaches some agreement, how much leverage does russia have? and maybe too late for that anyway. and then, more technical question, which came up briefly before about the chemical weapons, if he does use chemical weapons, how exactly to reuse them, what are the mechanics of that? and the question i thought about for a long time with regards to syria, assuming post bashar theory of remains very chaotic which is a safe assumption come is in the iranian revolutionary guard the actor best prepared to take advantage of the situation? if after all had about a part in iraq on that front. how does the u.s. managed that? how do we do with that is not just the higher gc, that the terrorist groups. i'm not sure that's going to help teach at a deal with questions. particularly the day after the project you must have thought about a lot of these questions. so why don't we begin with you. >> thank you. your question is about the day after project quite >> escom ambassador ford spoke a little bit about the transition we expect to take place. according to our
secondly, if clinton reaches some agreement, how much leverage does russia have? and maybe too late for that anyway. and then, more technical question, which came up briefly before about the chemical weapons, if he does use chemical weapons, how exactly to reuse them, what are the mechanics of that? and the question i thought about for a long time with regards to syria, assuming post bashar theory of remains very chaotic which is a safe assumption come is in the iranian revolutionary guard the...
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he increased the income tax by 10%, but the huge surge in revenues under clinton came through the capital gains tax cut, not from the income-tax increase. lou: you and i have do what the repblicans, perhaps too often. we talk about the economics of it, the theory of it, if you will, the extraction of t, but but the realitys the republican party has not come up with a rejoinder, a respnse to a, if you will, a socialist redistributionist president who right now claims thefield is on because there is no other standard flying over that field. there is a spker of the house to is simply saying, this is not right. you know, we are not at the table and complaining, but not, not engaging. >> i think we have got to engage the argument. we cannot win the argument while acknowledging that an increase in tax rates would increase revenues and all. it will just today the top 1 percent are paying about 40 percent of the income tax. the top 25 percent are paying 87% of the income tax. it does not get any better than that. this is under the bush tax rates. you eliminate the tax rates and you will get less
he increased the income tax by 10%, but the huge surge in revenues under clinton came through the capital gains tax cut, not from the income-tax increase. lou: you and i have do what the repblicans, perhaps too often. we talk about the economics of it, the theory of it, if you will, the extraction of t, but but the realitys the republican party has not come up with a rejoinder, a respnse to a, if you will, a socialist redistributionist president who right now claims thefield is on because there...
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clinton drastically lowered the capital gains tax and that was where most of the new revenues came. but in general, 50 nations around the world have reduced their tax rates since wealth and poverty was published. drastically reduce tax rates. most of eastern europe now has flat tax is. in all these countries, revenues have boomed. there hasn't been a big craze this is anime and estonia. this in a past and estonia with 12% flat tax. the fact is supply-side economics is booming around the world. it's only in the united states that soul-searching and from this economics of enterprise. >> what is your analysis of what is happening in what donald rumsfeld recalled old europe? >> old europe is fallen with the indulgent dilutions of the welfare state. they've all accepted dependence on a show i've government and bass have destroyed the value of their assets. when you destroy the value of your assets, ultimately the human beings who make your economy go our investments and creations of work after. when you'd appreciate this asset, reliability is become impossible. if you unleashed the asset
clinton drastically lowered the capital gains tax and that was where most of the new revenues came. but in general, 50 nations around the world have reduced their tax rates since wealth and poverty was published. drastically reduce tax rates. most of eastern europe now has flat tax is. in all these countries, revenues have boomed. there hasn't been a big craze this is anime and estonia. this in a past and estonia with 12% flat tax. the fact is supply-side economics is booming around the world....
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long tradition in arkansas, let's not forget one of the great presidents of the united states, bill clinton. we work hard down there but i can't get too specific on our prospects there yet. >> if i could return to the administration for a minute, governor. obviously, some governors are lobbying the white house on what they would like to see happen in some of the fiscal cliffs negotiations and some of the cut thass republicans and others want to make in these negotiations could impact state budgets. what do you see as your bottom line and what the cuts cannot do? -- or should not do. >> let's be clear about this, the president has this one right. we cannot balance this budget and make the changes we need to make in terms of the fiscal cliff, or or what i call the fiscal slope without ensuring that we ask the top 1% or 2% of the americans pay their fair share in income taxes. we all know that the top 1% or 2% is paying lower income taxes than any time in our history. they've had a great deal, president bush set that up for them but we as nation did better under the clinton tax policies where
long tradition in arkansas, let's not forget one of the great presidents of the united states, bill clinton. we work hard down there but i can't get too specific on our prospects there yet. >> if i could return to the administration for a minute, governor. obviously, some governors are lobbying the white house on what they would like to see happen in some of the fiscal cliffs negotiations and some of the cut thass republicans and others want to make in these negotiations could impact...
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he worked as chief of staff in the clinton white house on the domestic policy council. he was the chief officer of the progressive policy institute. i want to remind you of a piece that came out before the election. people will clamor him to pursue a grand bargain. you can respond to any or all of that. guest: paul krugman is not a fan. i wish he would sit down with them and go into more details. there are some things he may not be aware of. on taxes, we'd do lower rates. this seems to be a problem for some people to grasp. how can you lower rates will we need more revenue? you do that by broadening the base. economists, a lot of them disagreed on the positive impact of simplifying the tax code or tax reform. most agree there is some evidence. we have some studies based on the 1986 tax reform plan. that impacted gdp in a positive way by about one percentage point. there is no consensus, but there is a general understanding there is a benefit. anyone who has done their taxes can understand this. the time alone to do your taxes, even with the great software, we have 70% o
he worked as chief of staff in the clinton white house on the domestic policy council. he was the chief officer of the progressive policy institute. i want to remind you of a piece that came out before the election. people will clamor him to pursue a grand bargain. you can respond to any or all of that. guest: paul krugman is not a fan. i wish he would sit down with them and go into more details. there are some things he may not be aware of. on taxes, we'd do lower rates. this seems to be a...
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restoring the clinton tax rates is something i would support. we supported them back in 1991 when bill clinton was running for president. no problem on that. it is a reasonable adjustment, but may not be sufficient to reach the targets we need, and it does not help us in bipartisan bargaining, reaching a deal. i hope as this negotiation -- we ought to be at the irish times -- that they will not make a fetish of marginal tax rates if they should go up some, but do they need to go back where they were? i do not know. lots of ways to increase taxes on rich people, and it may be that a hybrid of marginal tax increases and the kind of base- broadening, loophole closing, expenditure closing that simpson-bowles proposed should be part of the mix. raising marginal rates does not guarantee you will get your intended target. very rich people depend more on investment income than on their labor income. if you want to get them -- and this is where mitt romney was able to pay a 14% tax rate on earnings of $14 million -- so if you are trying to get the super-
restoring the clinton tax rates is something i would support. we supported them back in 1991 when bill clinton was running for president. no problem on that. it is a reasonable adjustment, but may not be sufficient to reach the targets we need, and it does not help us in bipartisan bargaining, reaching a deal. i hope as this negotiation -- we ought to be at the irish times -- that they will not make a fetish of marginal tax rates if they should go up some, but do they need to go back where they...
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clinton, and they told me that bill clinton and barack obama ave had a major falling out. lou: wow, afterll the campaigning? the elegant speech, really? >> because of this estrangement, i'm told, is back to the presidential election when clinton struck a deal with obama. in the deal, clinton said he'd give the nominating speech and go out and campaign for obama, but in return, he wanted a couple things from the president. first, clinton wanted to be a allowed to name the next chairman of the democratic national committee to have effective control of the party apparatus and all the money that goes with that. lou: that's a big gift. >> well, he did a big deal for obama. lou: right. >> secondly, he wanted obama to agree that he would back hillary if she runs for president in 2016, and that was a verbal commitment he believed he had from barack obama. shortly after the election, according, again, to my sources, clinton sent obama a list of five names from which he could choose the next chairman of the democratic national convention. lou: a list from clinton to the president? >
clinton, and they told me that bill clinton and barack obama ave had a major falling out. lou: wow, afterll the campaigning? the elegant speech, really? >> because of this estrangement, i'm told, is back to the presidential election when clinton struck a deal with obama. in the deal, clinton said he'd give the nominating speech and go out and campaign for obama, but in return, he wanted a couple things from the president. first, clinton wanted to be a allowed to name the next chairman of...
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secretary of state clinton said it would be a redlinebe for united states. back with the panel. it seems like this is serious today. the president weighing in. and the secretary of state. and action on the ground in syria increasing. >> no question they took the rhetoric to another level. there was a piece talking about how they consider a bolder approach on syria. to there was a precipitating event. the defection of the spokesman. either way, we are looking at white house obama administration taking this more seriously. the problem they face is a problem that they face in the sense of the last several months. the words don't mean as much now. they have been calling for assad to go for a year-and-a-half. they have been making the threats. very little of it has come to pass. there is very little action that supported the rhetoric over the course of the past year-and-a-half. if the stepped up rhetoric and hillary clinton identifying the use of chemical weapons as a redline which is well understood might give assad pause and people under him pause. it's the kind of situation where
secretary of state clinton said it would be a redlinebe for united states. back with the panel. it seems like this is serious today. the president weighing in. and the secretary of state. and action on the ground in syria increasing. >> no question they took the rhetoric to another level. there was a piece talking about how they consider a bolder approach on syria. to there was a precipitating event. the defection of the spokesman. either way, we are looking at white house obama...
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the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meetg with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and toda a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary clinton insisted that the united states and russia share common goals in the region. >> trying hard to work hard with russia to stop the bloodshed in syria and begin a political transition to a post asad future the pressure against the regime in and aroundamascus seems to be increasing. lou: at home, leon pa net fa issuing the -- panetta issuinghe sharpest warning yet. >> the president of t united states made it clear there will be consequences. there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using chemical weapons on their own people. lou: neither the white house or pentago
the military is prepared to use poisen gas bombs, secretary of hillary clinton flew to dublin to hold a meetg with her russian counter part and u.n. enjoy to syria meeting to discuss how they would end the now 21-month long conflict in syria and how to move assad from power. and there's no sign they had to reverse the support, and toda a senior lawmaker says the syria government is now incapable of functioning properly. just before the meeting with the russian foreign minister, secretary...
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bush and clinton administrations. both of you went to the same university. i'm sure you can agree on everything today. dr. zandi first. >> thank you for the opportunity. it is an honor to be here with kevin, a good friend of mine. let me say that these are my own personal views. lawmakers have to resolve three issues -- first, the fiscal cliff. second, raising the treasury debt ceiling, which as you know is becoming an issue rarely soon. third, achieving long-term fiscal sustainability. that is deficit reduction and tax increases and spending cuts that allow the gdp ratio to stabilize by the end of the decade. these three things need to be done now. in terms of the fiscal cliff, if policy is unchanged and we go over the cliff and there is still no change after that, the gdp in 2013 will 3.5 percentage points. subtract that and that is a severe recession. cbo and others are probably us are underestimating how severe that will be because confidence is very weak. it is unclear how the reserve would response to this. we need to scale back from the cliff. at the
bush and clinton administrations. both of you went to the same university. i'm sure you can agree on everything today. dr. zandi first. >> thank you for the opportunity. it is an honor to be here with kevin, a good friend of mine. let me say that these are my own personal views. lawmakers have to resolve three issues -- first, the fiscal cliff. second, raising the treasury debt ceiling, which as you know is becoming an issue rarely soon. third, achieving long-term fiscal sustainability....
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that is the wanting today from secretary of state, hillary clinton. speaking at nato, secretary of state, hillary clinton added this time it is running out for bashar al-assad. >> we believe, as you know, that their fall is inevitable. it is a question of how many people will die until that date occurs. >>trace: investigators say syria could have thousands of chemical agents including cyanide and the deadly nerve gas. 40,000 people have died so far in the syrian civil war. now the fighting has spilled into neighboring lebanon, a nation where tens of thousands of syrians have sought refuge. officials in a northern city reported at least six people have died and more than 50 have been wounded in two days of violence. jonathan hunt is live today at the united nations. the big question is, will president assad stay and fight? will he seek asylum? >>jonathan: the turks and russians, they are saying they are working on what they call "new ideas to bring an end to the ongoing 20--month-old civil war." they have nut given any ideas or details what those ideas
that is the wanting today from secretary of state, hillary clinton. speaking at nato, secretary of state, hillary clinton added this time it is running out for bashar al-assad. >> we believe, as you know, that their fall is inevitable. it is a question of how many people will die until that date occurs. >>trace: investigators say syria could have thousands of chemical agents including cyanide and the deadly nerve gas. 40,000 people have died so far in the syrian civil war. now the...
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a return to that, what we saw during the clinton years. what will that do to the economy? >> it will hurt, but it is necessary. let me make a few points. first, i think tax reform is obviously better than raising tax rates. raising the top marginal tax rate is less desirable than try to scale back reductions in the tax code. i think there are some reasonable approaches to tax reform. working for the day, going to the code to decide what is good and what is bad. given that is not going to be the case, i think a proposal like maya's or even the president's is reasonable, and there is a lot of agreement for tax reform. i think it is $600 billion from the president. i think there is room here for compromise. the second that i will say is that this tax reform will not generate enough revenue. $4 trillion. by my calculation, we do not need $4 trillion, but it is a bigger number than just tax reform will be able to generate, so in that context, we will have to let tax rates rise, and if we had to do that with an amount that would do the least economic damage, it would allow that
a return to that, what we saw during the clinton years. what will that do to the economy? >> it will hurt, but it is necessary. let me make a few points. first, i think tax reform is obviously better than raising tax rates. raising the top marginal tax rate is less desirable than try to scale back reductions in the tax code. i think there are some reasonable approaches to tax reform. working for the day, going to the code to decide what is good and what is bad. given that is not going to...
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also, a piece on hillary clinton. president truman's oldest grandson, who was the first truman to travel to japan. tonight on c-span 3, a look at hiroshima. a talk with his trip and what he learned it. learned through his words teacher made that his grandfather went through and now he went through in hiroshige of. 6:00 for those on the west coast on c-span 3. here is a preview. [video clip] >> i tried to look down and i saw so many dead bodies floating on the surface. people --'s so many the people suffered from the burned bodies. they went into water. it jumped into the river. >> that was a survivor of the bombings in hiroshima telling her story for the first time to daniel on his first visit to the two cities where the bomb was dropped the in 1945. you are listening for the first time. what did you see your role as as you were listening to it? >> just to be there to listen to her and to let her speak and to let her do this for the first time. >> for her understanding she was talking to the grandson of the man who ma
also, a piece on hillary clinton. president truman's oldest grandson, who was the first truman to travel to japan. tonight on c-span 3, a look at hiroshima. a talk with his trip and what he learned it. learned through his words teacher made that his grandfather went through and now he went through in hiroshige of. 6:00 for those on the west coast on c-span 3. here is a preview. [video clip] >> i tried to look down and i saw so many dead bodies floating on the surface. people --'s so many...
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former president clinton held on to number 50. and tonight be sure to watch brian williams sit down with tim cook. by the way, he's number 35 on the forbes list. >> finally, no, this is no joke. pizza hut in canada sent more than 100 bottles of pizza cented perfume to facebook fans. the fragrance boasts freshly baked hand tossed dough. >>> some optimistic news in the fight against breast cancer. women who took the common estrogen blocking drug tamoxofin cut the chance of getting breast cancer in half. >>> coming up, corey booker lives on food stamps. the nfl steps in with a million dollars for jovan belcher's orphan daughter and high resolution images of your planet earth from space. the new technology uses filtering techniques that allows the images such as city lights, gas flares, auroras, wildfires and reflecting moonlight to be seen by the naked eye. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than thos
former president clinton held on to number 50. and tonight be sure to watch brian williams sit down with tim cook. by the way, he's number 35 on the forbes list. >> finally, no, this is no joke. pizza hut in canada sent more than 100 bottles of pizza cented perfume to facebook fans. the fragrance boasts freshly baked hand tossed dough. >>> some optimistic news in the fight against breast cancer. women who took the common estrogen blocking drug tamoxofin cut the chance of getting...
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secretary clinton was in algeria to discuss mali among other issues approximately a month ago. the third challenge in mali is terrorism. we are gravely concerned about the presence and activities of terrorists and extremist groups in northern mali. al qaeda in the islamic magrab, the movement for unity and jihad in west africa known as mujoa and other affiliated groups have exploited the political unrest created by the march coup and the northern rebellion to expand their safe havens in northern mali and to impose their ideology on local communities throughout the northern part of the country. while these tactics remain alien to the vast majority of the population in the affected areas, aqim and majoa have established at least temporary relationships with a number of groups in northern mali and currently control the key cities of timbuktu, and nidal. any attempt to militarily oust aqim from the area must be african-led, it must be malian-led. it must be well planned, well organized and well resourced to be successful. military plans must also account for civilian security and h
secretary clinton was in algeria to discuss mali among other issues approximately a month ago. the third challenge in mali is terrorism. we are gravely concerned about the presence and activities of terrorists and extremist groups in northern mali. al qaeda in the islamic magrab, the movement for unity and jihad in west africa known as mujoa and other affiliated groups have exploited the political unrest created by the march coup and the northern rebellion to expand their safe havens in...
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policy, have heard a lot about the increasing power and -- the revolutionary guard corps and hillary clinton said iran is edging closer to being a military dictatorship. i wonder when marina talks about this kind of long history of abuse of political prisoners, whether the agents of that abuse have changed over this 20-30 year span, and whether the increased role of the irgc has an impact on the human rights landscape? is the power of the military in iran actually making matters even worse? >> thanks very much, ladies and gentlemen, and thanks for arranging a panel discussion about human rights. it's rather interesting that in this city, washington, dc. most panels about iran are about the nuclear program and almost nothing about the political prisoners. it send a terrible signal to the iranian public because it means you do care about your own security, you do care about the implications of the islamic republic becoming a nuclear armed state, but what happens in iran does not matter to the washington elite. this is the signal washington has been sending to iran, and i think this panel and i
policy, have heard a lot about the increasing power and -- the revolutionary guard corps and hillary clinton said iran is edging closer to being a military dictatorship. i wonder when marina talks about this kind of long history of abuse of political prisoners, whether the agents of that abuse have changed over this 20-30 year span, and whether the increased role of the irgc has an impact on the human rights landscape? is the power of the military in iran actually making matters even worse?...
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on january 1 we go back to the clinton tax rates on everybody. number two, there's the beginning of a process of $1.2 trillion in spending cuts from the -- half from the pentagon and half from domestic spending. it would be gradual. so if we got to january 1 with nothing done, congress would still have time to act in both areas before the impact of those policies took effect. host: if congress disagree -- if investors start to doubt a deal could be reached, the consequences could prove to be severe and difficult to reverse. causing consumers and businesses to retrench, dampening investment. a genie you could not put back in the bottle. guest: i think there is some basis for that. what's happened in congress, it's been dysfunctional, is that we are doing things not by steady negotiations but by super brinksmanship. that's what happened in the debt ceiling fight last august. that's what happened in the budget debate in december of 2011. when we went right up to the midnight hour to determine whether we were going to keep the lights on in government
on january 1 we go back to the clinton tax rates on everybody. number two, there's the beginning of a process of $1.2 trillion in spending cuts from the -- half from the pentagon and half from domestic spending. it would be gradual. so if we got to january 1 with nothing done, congress would still have time to act in both areas before the impact of those policies took effect. host: if congress disagree -- if investors start to doubt a deal could be reached, the consequences could prove to be...
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new york city mayor bloomberg called hillary clinton and said you should be my successor as mayor. how do you think that conversation went? i think being a mayor of new york city gives you an opportunity to imagine things that are possible but not in real life. i can imagine how hillary clinton would be enticed to take on that smaller stage after her staging as the nation and the world for the last decade. >> jim, i wonder if she was flattered by it or thought to herself, i'm on the world stage here. why would i go and become mayor of new york city? >> i mean, everything i've read about sect clinton suggests that she's looking forward to a break at the end of this year. i don't think running for mayor is very conducive to that. it's not my idea of a relaxing time but i may be wrong. >> people are joking that mayor bloomberg looks tired. it's a big job. but the one thing she's been consistent about, she needs to sleep a little. great to see you. jim, thank you as well. >>> meantime, the u.s. navy is denying iran's claim that it has captured an unmanned drone. they say that none are
new york city mayor bloomberg called hillary clinton and said you should be my successor as mayor. how do you think that conversation went? i think being a mayor of new york city gives you an opportunity to imagine things that are possible but not in real life. i can imagine how hillary clinton would be enticed to take on that smaller stage after her staging as the nation and the world for the last decade. >> jim, i wonder if she was flattered by it or thought to herself, i'm on the world...
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what was so bad about the 39.6% highest rate under bill clinton? the economy was pretty good under bill clinton and that grumbling from democrats, i think, will be helpful to, ironically, republicans because a lot of republicans on the right are going to be saying to boehner, we had pledged to grover norquist no tax increase at all and here you are agreeing to what is effectively a tax increase. and i think that both sides are going to have to give a little bit of something, and that 37% may be the golden median. >> doug, let's talk about the unemployment report that came out today. it shows 7.7% unemployment. you know, i know a lot of democrats want to say, oh, it's dropping, but it seems to me for months and months and months, the unemployment numbers have just remained awful. they move a little up and down, but they're just a mess. 12 million people unemployed. it seems to me that that could cut either way. republicans could still lean on that and say, you may be winning the pr war on this thing right now, but don't forget, you've got a big prob
what was so bad about the 39.6% highest rate under bill clinton? the economy was pretty good under bill clinton and that grumbling from democrats, i think, will be helpful to, ironically, republicans because a lot of republicans on the right are going to be saying to boehner, we had pledged to grover norquist no tax increase at all and here you are agreeing to what is effectively a tax increase. and i think that both sides are going to have to give a little bit of something, and that 37% may be...
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it's not a coincidence that the president was golfing with bill clinton this sudden. that is as much the president likes golf as much as an effort to say, here i am with the great dealmaker, the reasonable guy that everybody likes, regardless of whether clinton's actually giving him any advice on this although i'm sure he is. >> if you look back to the health care debate obama tried to appear reasonable last time and that didn't work well for him. what he's doing now is all the things he didn't do last time. starting with the unreasonable position, with what he wants rather than what he thinks he'll get which is a better bargaining position. he's going out and trying to get people to pick up the phone, take up, you know, twitter and facebook and tell congress we want to get this done. so he's doing a lot of the things from a negotiating standpoint that he didn't do last it time around, while still, you know, kind of queuing up the blame game as both sides are doing to make sure that other guy takes the fall if it doesn't work. >> and i think to eric's point, this is w
it's not a coincidence that the president was golfing with bill clinton this sudden. that is as much the president likes golf as much as an effort to say, here i am with the great dealmaker, the reasonable guy that everybody likes, regardless of whether clinton's actually giving him any advice on this although i'm sure he is. >> if you look back to the health care debate obama tried to appear reasonable last time and that didn't work well for him. what he's doing now is all the things he...
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this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does not believe in unicorns, pink or otherwise, mr. grover norquist. grover, what a day to have you on the show. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. of course, you know, north korea and -- media announced they did find unicorns in north korea. >> we don't often take our cues from them. i am one that firmly believes in the existence of unicorns somewhere and hopefully maybe in this fiscal cliff deal. grover, the first question i have for you is this, your pledge, the pledge that many republicans have signed on to, opposes any and all efforts to increase marginal income tax rates and opposes any net re
this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who...
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you can't return to clinton prosperity only raising taxes on 2%. it's different for all taxpayers. am i right? >> you're almost entirely wrong. >> why would raising just on the 2% get us back to the clinton prosperity you're talking about? we can't return to the spending levels either. >> getting to a sound fiscal position is necessary to protect the economy. if we don't do that, as this economy recovers, that recovery is going to be aborted and that's going to do damage. then the question is how you get there, and the president believes that we should raise revenues with a tax system that has been proven in the past to go along with very substantial -- >> you can't conflate the two. you have the entire -- >> joe, joe, if you go back to this, i'm not sure what you're arguing. >> raising on 2% is different than the other structure. >> the reason it's different is that the tax rate on everybody else is going to be lower. >> right. so you don't have nearly as much money to balance the budget in the '90s. >> many other things have changed in the interim and we have set as a framework a
you can't return to clinton prosperity only raising taxes on 2%. it's different for all taxpayers. am i right? >> you're almost entirely wrong. >> why would raising just on the 2% get us back to the clinton prosperity you're talking about? we can't return to the spending levels either. >> getting to a sound fiscal position is necessary to protect the economy. if we don't do that, as this economy recovers, that recovery is going to be aborted and that's going to do damage. then...
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. >> in 1994 clinton awarded him the national medal of the arts. >> i'll never forget in high school as a musician i could actually play the saxophone lead in "take 5." >> reporter: in 2009 the kennedy center honored his six decades. >> rhythm is an international thing. >> rhythm is an international language. >> reporter: dave brubeck spoke it fluidly. anthony mason, cbs news, new york. >>> coming up after your local news on "cbs morning news," an update on the growing crisis in syria. we'll get reaction from secretary of state hillary clinton who's holding talks. >> plus a groundbreaking way to treat alzheimer's disease with a brain pacemaker. >>> and the latest problems for the boeing 787 dream maker. we'll hear from peter later. >>> that is the morning news for this thursday. as always i appreciate your watching. i'm terrell brown in new york city. thank you, everybody. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com decemb >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald >>> hi, everyone. good morning. it's thursday, december 6. good to have you with us. i'm frank mallic
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michelle obama is competing with bill clinton for a grammy for best spoken word album. the first lady red the audio version of "american grown," the story of the white house garden. the former president narrated his book "back to work." those are a couple of things we thought you should knowment time for the news narc gut check. treasury he secretary tim geithner told cnbc yesterday that the obama administration is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans. take a look. >> when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy, if republicans do not agree to that is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> orrin hatch called that one of the most stunning and irresponsible statements he's heard in some time. what does your gut tell you? do you support the obama administration's decision to go over the cliff? that does it for this edition of "news nation." thanks for hanging with
michelle obama is competing with bill clinton for a grammy for best spoken word album. the first lady red the audio version of "american grown," the story of the white house garden. the former president narrated his book "back to work." those are a couple of things we thought you should knowment time for the news narc gut check. treasury he secretary tim geithner told cnbc yesterday that the obama administration is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if republicans refuse...
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i imagine both secretary clinton and mr. brahimi would be lean on the russians to convince assad to leave power. he's finished in syria. there's no way he's going to emerge victorious. the only options for him are to lose and lose his life, most probability, or leave syria but certainly this civil war now more than 40,000 people dead, and with the latest problem with chemical weapons, the civil war has to be brought to an end. >> now, ambassador, both president obama and secretary of state clinton warned chemical weapons are the red line on syria. i also want to play something that defense secretary leon panetta had to say in reaction to the reports about the preparation of chemical weapons. let play that and talk about what diplomatic options are left. >> the president of the united states made very clear that there will be consequences. there will be conconsequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their own people. i'm not going to speculate or comment on what those potential
i imagine both secretary clinton and mr. brahimi would be lean on the russians to convince assad to leave power. he's finished in syria. there's no way he's going to emerge victorious. the only options for him are to lose and lose his life, most probability, or leave syria but certainly this civil war now more than 40,000 people dead, and with the latest problem with chemical weapons, the civil war has to be brought to an end. >> now, ambassador, both president obama and secretary of...
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president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that created surpluses in the latter half of the clinton presidency. it's a more complicated picture. definitely there are folks who want tax increases but let's not gloss over president obama is talking about way higher taxes than we saw during the clinton era on the high earners. >> that's true. all right. want to talk about a party going on tonight. james, pretty good. there is a party going on, jack kemp foundation is having a party and marco rubio is speaking. paul ryan is speaking. they both want to have complete makeovers. you know -- marco rubio doesn't want to
president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. and president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced out against the increases on ordinary income. so, you know, that's something that arguably contributed to that surge in technology stocks and much else that...